Hi Fred, I just think about you. Then I pray for you, then decided to share this to you. (I shared a Video to him with a Testimony of a lady realising Jesus is Lord)
Blessings, Chris "Jesus" (He is a business friend that I met. After we met and I shared a little of the Good News of Jesus with him, he start calling met Chris Jesus)
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Freddy - Thanks Chris Jesus; Have a blessed weekend
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1dVQacU4aV/
The next time I met him, he said... Hi Chris Jesus Follower.
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Back at home, I saw he sent me 3 Videos...
1) https://www.facebook.com/share/v/18aVV2bNYk/ (About "Is Jesus God?" Focussing on the fact that Jesus was only a human being.)
2) https://www.facebook.com/share/r/18647i7eNp/ (Ex-Pastor warns Christians - We don't follow Jesus, but false people that wrote the Bible)
3) https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1E4XKEJwfU/ (More Dawah-videos against Christians)
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My response: Thanks Fred. I will respond later.
For sure, Jesus was a human being, a man. He spoke on earth in human language with humans - so that they can understood him.
What was His message? What did He said?
If you have a Bible... Will you read John Chapter 1 in the Bible. (especially verse 1-12)
Also Chapter 1:29-34.
And John 3 (especially verse 16-19)
John 5:18-24
And John 14:1-11
If you have questions, we can speak later.
God loves you.
Chris (Jesus)
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Fred: Just sharing with you... I'm very dedicated Muslim.
I don't give time to other beliefs. We respect each other beliefs...all what matters
I love Jesus a lot. I love; Moses a lot; I love all the messengers of God . A lot
I love Mohamed our prophet. A lot ...too
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Me Responding: I belief you and can see you are a very dedicated Muslim.
My question to you. Are you very sure that what you know and believe about your religion and your Prophet is all the TRUTH?
Or are you just believe the Standard Islamic Narrative that you heard from your Scholars all the time.
What if...?
I study Islam now a few years already and did a lot of research for my own knowledge.
I found a lot of Contradictory facts and insight that most Muslims don't know about.
If you are interested I can show you?
If you are afraid for the truth, nobody can help you.
I can leave you alone, but... JIM (Jesus in me) loves you🤔
Most important question...
🔸 Are you sure about the afterlife?
🔸 If you die today and must stand before Almighty God, you can only say... I was a good Muslim, I did all the pillars of faith, lots of prayers; I never sinned; Please forgive me...
🔸 Will this be enough? Are you 100% sure about this?
JIM LOVES YOU.
That's why I care. 🤔
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Fred: 100% Muslim way....will take you straight to heaven 😅
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Me Responding: What If...?
What if... your scholars lie to you?
On this Page: WHAT IF...? we want to ask some very serious questions under this Topic. Please read this and think about it.
It's not about debating the arguments to see who are right; who win the debate! It's questions on which we provided reasons why the questions need attention in searching for the TRUTH!
Everybody know that there can't be more than one Truth.
So, enjoy this Page giving a wide variety of Questions.
https://islam-factsandmyths.blogspot.com/p/what-if-islam-is-not-true.html
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FRED:
😅🫵🏻 You Christians....you believe God...can become a person like us.
Just for him to prove to us...that he's God. Lol.
God is not obligated to change his nature...
We are his creations... he can do whatever he wants.
He sent many messengers from Adam to Mohamed ... Just to help us..
If we are not doing what he wants...we gonna be burned in hell forever...
Islam teaches logical principles - Not complicated theories
You as ....the owner of firm company...example
You do what ever you want....how to operate the business....how much you sell
You don't need to ask your workers . About any decisions
How can ...you want God...to become a person...that goes to toilet...
Just to save us. From hell
Doesn't make sense... Lol😅
Who is writing this messages you are sending me....lol
Your pastor?
Who is writing this messages you are sending me....lol
Your pastor?
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Me Responding: I wrote it myself. I am the Pastor. Why? Because JIM Loves you.
Here is a very good explanation who Moses was and where Jesus fits in...
Click on the Picture to see the Video...
HOW "I AM WHO I AM" POINTS DIRECTLY TO JESUS CHRIST https://youtu.be/gObbRhT5ZOM?si=pizXPScI464HqrS-
You know Moses? Moosa? Do you know where he fits in.? From a burning bush in the wilderness… to Jesus standing in the temple saying “Before Abraham was, I AM.”
This is one of the most powerful connections in the entire Bible.
In this deep dive, we trace the name God revealed to Moses in Exodus 3:14 — “I AM WHO I AM” — and uncover how Jesus directly claimed that same divine identity throughout the Gospel of John.
Why did the Pharisees try to stone Jesus after he said “I AM”?
Why were the words so explosive?
And how do the seven “I AM” statements reveal that Jesus was claiming to be the God of the burning bush?
The Video explore:
✦ The meaning of “Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh”
✦ The sacred name YHWH
✦ Jesus’ “I AM” statements in John
✦ John 8:58 and the blasphemy accusation
✦ The Garden of Gethsemane moment that made soldiers fall backward
✦ Why Jesus was truly crucified
✦ How the I AM still speaks today
This is not just theology.
This is the thread that connects Exodus to the cross… and the empty tomb.
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FRED:
Be careful...lol
Jesus he's just human being
Born like everyone like us
God took him to a certain heaven....he will send him down at the end...to tell the (Jewish.. that are gathering now in Israel.)..
I'm a messenger from God...I did not tell you worship me.....I did not tell you I'm the sin if God....as you believe
Jewish are the most evil people on earth....
Be careful my friend...
God doesn't need to become a human just to please human beings. To believe in him.
Be careful
Son
When you listen to Ahmed deedat....
Don't just listen...
You write down the chapters and verses he was referring to...
And read them..
He was not inventing anything....but just quoting from the Bible
He was not inventing anything
He was quoting from the Bible!
Did you know that....
He memorized the Bible...better than anyone in the kingdom of Christianity
No Christian pastor....memorized the Bible...as we speak... better than Ahmed deedat.
Watch all his debates
He was not having a Bible to read from.
Just using his memory
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Me Responding:
Hi Fred, I followed Deedat for many years already. Yes, he quoted many verses from the Bible (verses that suit him???)
He impressed People with the manner he quoted the verses, especially people that don't know the importance of reading each verse in the bigger context of the Chapter. No verse ever stand alone but one must read the verses before and after as well.
Can I share a post I wrote many years ago after I did some research about him while at the Islamic Propagation Centre in Durban 👇👇
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1) Muslims Scholars reject the Deity of Christ.
Most Muslims scholars reject the Bible and specifically that Jesus was God. The previous Chapter deals in more detail about all the questions Muslims have according to their Quran and traditions.
Some of those scholars make a very strong effort to focus on this subject and by this they strongly and openly humiliate and degrade the Lord Jesus Christ. By this method they get a lot of applause from their Muslim fans and rise in their status as a influential Muslim scholar and apologist.
This chapter deals with the story of one such very favourite person in Islamic debates - as an example, but also as a strong warning.
In this Post I wrote... Muslim Friend, What you believe is taught to you by your Muslim scholars and they try to proof it from your Quran.
But... The Bible has a different version about who Jesus is.
Jesus is a whole different person than what you think; He is more than your Quranic version of Isa. The Jesus of the Bible is Yesuah – not your Isa.
2.2 Where is Ahmed Deedat today?
This is a very important Question to think about:
Where is this hero of Islam today? (Read underneath about Deedat’s Downfall)
So sad to say… Not alive but dead, rotten in a grave.
And his eternal destiny? Unfortunately, according to the Bible (and according to your Quran and your faith of dead works), he was never sure about his destiny and eternal life up till the end! Many Muslims today still share this road with a dead end with late Ahmed Deedat.
👉Not even his prophet Muhammad was sure of his own eternal destiny.
- Say: 'I am not an innovation among the Messengers, and I know not what shall be done with me or with you. I only follow what is revealed to me; I am only a clear warner.' S. 46:8-9 Meccan
Remember to read in my post... 3. Ahmed Deedat’s Downfall
2.3 Where is Jesus Christ today?
He died, rose again from the grave; He sits at the right hand of God. You can read about His resurrection and that He will come again to judge in the Bible. (don't read the Quran's version, because you know at this stage that the Quran is full of holes, with a very questionable origin that was put together two centuries after Muhammad's death, with many different of Arabic Quran versions available today, that proof that the Quran is not authentic at all as Muslims claimed for many centuries.
Listen to Jay Smith's and other researchers give you the historical well research facts about the origin of the Quran, your prophet Muhammad and Islam in general.
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FRED: 3. Ahmed Deedat’s Downfall
Don't worry about getting to heaven...
If I meet you on judgment day....
I will help you with some things
I will say he is a good human being.. we know each other in south Africa
Remember to read in my post... 3. Ahmed Deedat’s Downfall
Not down fall.
Death is for all of us
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Me Responding Lastly , on my post ... Read 4. Debate between Ahmed Deedat and Josh Mcdowell
One of the many famous debates is the one... Ahmed Deedat vs. Josh Mcdowell.
When I listened, my heart was touch... for what Jesus did to me; how He was willing to die in my place! I clearly heard how Mcdowell explained his research and how he packed the facts out about Jesus death and resurrection.
Josh ended the debate on a very personal note - about his own story, how Jesus totally changed his own life.
Please read the full version of Josh Mcdowell's transcripts. Just a few sentences here...👇
The greatest eyewitness testimony is not found in the gospels. It is found in I Corinthians, the epistle by the apostle Paul, chapter 15, and was written in A.D. 55 to 56.
I have yet to find a reputable scholar who would deny
that. Paul says (now it's 20 years earlier, right after his
conversion - he had met with the leaders. He had met with James, the brother of Jesus in Jerusalem), that the tradition was passed on to him that there were over 500 eyewitnesses of the resur- rection. If you take that into a court of law, give each eyewitness just six minutes, that would make 3,000 minutes of eyewitness testi- mony, or 50 hours of eyewitness testimony.
However, that's not the key point here. That was the
tradition handed down to him, what he had examined personally. But Paul says then, the majority of them are still alive right now. Not when the tradition was passed down, but right now. Men and women, Paul was saying, "If you don't believe me, ask them."
Also, many people overlook the fact that when the
message of Jesus Christ was presented by the apostles and disciples, and the New Testament was shared, present in the audience were hostile and antagonistic witnesses. If they would have dared to depart from the truth of what was said, there were hostile witnesses to correct them immediately.
In a court of law that is referred to as the principle of
cross- examination. They did not dare to depart from the truth. Also, apart from the Bible, you have several extra biblical secular sources.
One, a man by the name of Polycarp, was a disciple of the apostle John. He writes in his works. going back almost 2.000 years ago, "So firm is the ground upon which these gospels rest, that even the here- tics themselves would not undermine it." They had to start from what was presented and then develop their own heresy. Because even then, they could not say, Jesus didn't say that. Jesus didn't do that then...
they couldn't do that. So, they had to start with what He said, and develop their own heresy.
The conclusion of many scholars is a tremendous confidence in the Christian Bible. Mr. Millar Burrows was on the staff of Yale University. one of the most prestigious universities in my country. He said. "There is an increase of confidence in the accurate transmission of the text of the New Testament itself." Dr. Howard Vox, a researcher and archaeologist, said, "From the standpoint of literary evidence, the only logical conclusion is in the case where the reliability of the New Testament is infinitely stronger
The sixth fact that I discovered was that Christ was
crucified. What does the historical, reliable record show?
It is clear, not only from the Christian's biblical
historical record, but also from secular sources, which are documented in the back of my book, Evidence That Demands a Verdict, that He not only predicted His death by crucifixion, but that He was actually crucified. Jesus said that He would be whipped and delivered over to be crucified.
And then. in John 19:17. 18, "They took Jesus therefore, and He went out, bearing His own cross, to the place called the Place of a Skull.... There they crucified Him, and with Him two other men, one on either side, and Jesus in between."…
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FRED: To tell you....one thing
To undesirable the Quran....you must be very knowledgeable about Arabic language
Not anymore can explain all the meaning
For none Arabs people....
No chance....u can understand the Quran
Joseph Estes
From church to mosque
Follow him
************* Me Responding Friend, a typical response from Muslims when they are cornered... To insinuate I can't understand the Arabic Quran 👇👇👇👇 To tell you....one thing
To undesirable the Quran....you must be very knowledgeable about Arabic language
Not anymore can explain all the meaning
For none Arabs people....
No chance....u can understand the Quran... ******* Me Responding MAY IS ASK YOU... DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE ARABIC QURAN? DON'T SAY YES, THEN YOU LIE. (My research proofs that 24 % of the Arabic Quran is not understandable!!! No two Muslims scholars…
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Me Responding Sorry, the link of the original debate between Deedat and Mcdowell is not available any more. Here is an alternative link of this debate ...
https://youtu.be/loRcQIUCk2M?si=awlSwqTnu1UPJwZc OK, here I must go now. Enjoy the reading of the material that I shared with you. 🙋♂️
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FRED : 😅😅😅😅😅😅🫵🏻🫵🏻🫵🏻🫵🏻🫵🏻
God bless ,
And guide you ...to go to eldoraigne mosala (mosque).
Me asking a Question: Seems your prophet committing shirk?
A video about... Bukhari 3167
The earth belong to Allah and..."his apostle"
Thus Muhammad put him equal to Allah. This is Shirk!?
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FRED: Not responded on that. Rather share another Deedat Post...
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Me Responding :
Good Morning Freddy, how are you today. May you have a wonderful day and may Jesus reveals Hiself to you today.
May I ask... Did you read and listen to what I responded on your previous posts.
I took a lot of time responding to your Deedat videos and answering you...
Did you read it? So, please, don't send me any Deedat stuff.
He is in hell after he rejected Jesus.
Did you read the tragic facts about his "Downfall"?
Or are you just close your eyes and continue with your #Parrot_Muslim faith without researching for the truth?
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FRED:
Lol - 😅🫵🏻
Today is Friday
Holly day for Muslims
I will pray for you
Me Responding :
Thank you, What will you pray? I will also pray for you... That the only true God reveals Himself to both of us. Is that a deal? I will be open for that. And you?
FRED:
Lol
As I said
God is not going to beg us to worship him.
He's not going to belittle himself to come down to his creatures....to beg them into worship him.
He sent many messengers
From Adam and eve
To our savior of all mankind....Mohamed
So I will pray for you to ...come out from the deep hypnosis of believing that Jesus was a son of God.
Amen
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